裴淳华 | 我心目中的大英雄

Right, so. What are your heroes? Can I do the question?

所以，你的英雄是谁？我可以问这个问题吗？

I’m choosing to talk about Marie Colvin, who I play in a film A Private War. Marie was an incredibly brave and intrepid war correspondent. She went to the kind of places that you and I would run away as hard as we could in the opposite direction.

我选择谈谈玛丽·科尔文，我在一部名为《私人战争》的电影中扮演她。玛丽是一个勇敢无畏的让人难以置信的战地记者。她去的那种地方换做是你我都会拼命往反方向跑。

She sought out the human face of war. She wasn’t interested in how governments clash or how army clash. Or, you know tribes war. She was interested in what is the human cost. Because intimately it’s the people on the ground who suffer.

她在战争中寻找人性。她对政府冲突，军队冲突，或者是部落战争，都不感兴趣。她感兴趣的是什么是人类的代价。因为最终受苦的是当地的人们。

Marie got me in touch with my own fear and my own courage. She spent time talk to people. Empathy was her great weapon and her great asset. And I feel that there’s a crossover between that and what I do.

玛丽让我触碰到自己的恐惧和勇气。她花时间与人交谈。同理心是她强大的武器，也是她强大的资本。我觉得这和我的工作有交叉点。

Empathy is the great misunderstood, undervalued human quality. What’s interesting when looking for a hero is you know, sure they can be strong, they can be brilliant, they can be fierce in the pursuit of what they want.

同理心是被误解的、被低估的伟大的人类品质。有趣的是，在寻找英雄时，他们当然可以很强壮，他们可以很聪明，他们可以很猛烈地追求他们想要的东西。

But they can also have vulnerabilities. And that’s OK. I think I look for complexity in my heroes. I look for something to admire, but maybe not everything to admire.

但他们也可以有弱点。我想我在我的英雄身上寻找复杂性。我寻找值得钦佩的东西，但也许不是所有东西都值得钦佩。

Marie was not fearless. There’s a lot of things and a lot of talk about the fearless and correspondent. Marie was not fearless. She had tremendous fear and she overcame that fear of her conviction in what was doing.

玛丽并非无所畏惧。有很多关于记者无畏的事迹和谈话。玛丽并不是什么都不害怕，她有巨大的恐惧，她克服了对她所做事情的信念的恐惧。

And I find that a really beautiful thing and a very admirable thing. She went into Homs, into the besieged city of Homs in Syria when the world wasn’t listening, when the world was listening Assad and hearing that he was going after terrorist gangs.

我认为这是一件非常美好的事情，也是一件非常令人钦佩的事情。她进入霍姆斯，进入叙利亚被围困的霍姆斯市，没人理会她的声音。整个世界都在关注阿萨德，听见他追捕恐怖团伙。

And Marie stood up on CNN and said: it’s a complete and utter lie that they are only going after terrorists. There are rockets, shells, tank shells, the Syria army is simply shelling a city of cold, starving civilians.

而玛丽站出来，在CNN说：他们只是在追捕恐怖分子，这是一个彻头彻底的谎言。霍姆斯到处都是火箭弹、炮弹、坦克炮，叙利亚军队只是在炮击一个充满寒冷、饥饿平民的城市。

For a journalist to get out of there on air and call something categorically a lie is a brave act. Marie’s life is full of brave acts. And in the end, that’s what I look for in my hero. Someone who will put themselves on the line and commit brave acts.

对于一个记者来说，从那里逃出来是令人喜悦的，明确地把一些东西说成是谎言，是一种勇敢的行为。玛丽的生活中充满了勇敢的行为。而最终，这就是我所寻找的英雄。一个把自己置于危险境地并做出勇敢行动的人。