1503 女人无需害怕谈论钱｜中英文访谈在节目简介里

今日格言：

I accept financial success.

我接受财务上的成功

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（English Interview starts at 10:00 ｜ 英语完整访谈开始10:00）

Lily:

Hello, you're listening to Fly with Lily. Now I'm at the school that I'm studying Spanish in and it's called Corazon Maya. I've been in Guatemala for three months and this is my last week and the Friday would be my birthday. And then actually I'm having such a busy week. I've been preparing my launch and then I have a lot of questions about money. And then I accidentally just met this woman. I was just going to let her talk about how we met. And I think she's wonderful. She has this really warm energy and actually this is the second time we are recording this. And then she's so cool about it and I just fell in love with her personality and I just think it's the right thing to do. I had this such a strong intuition I needed to invite her to the show. So let's welcome to let's welcome Jamie. Jamie. Hi. How we met?

你好，现在正在收听《学英语环游世界》。目前我正在危地马拉学习西班牙语，所在的学校名为Corazon Maya。在这里待了三个月，这是我最后一周，周五是我的生日。这一周非常忙碌，我一直在准备产品的发布，同时也有很多关于金钱的问题。然后，我无意中遇到了这位女士，我想让她分享我们是如何认识的。我觉得她非常棒，散发出温暖的能量。实际上，这是我们第二次录制这个声音（之前的录音不小心被删除了）。她对我的小失误毫不在意，并且非常酷，这让我对她的个性印象深刻。所以，我决定邀请她参加我的访谈。我有种强烈的直觉，觉得邀请她是对的。现在，让我们欢迎Jamie。 Jamie，你好。我们怎么认识的？

Jamie:

Yeah, so we met here in San Pedro in Guatemala where you are. And I have been staying for just a couple of weeks. And we met in a cafe that I guess you frequent a lot that you go to a lot. 

是的，我们在危地马拉的圣佩德罗认识的，也就是你所在的地方。 我只呆了几个星期。 我们在一家咖啡馆第一次遇见，我猜你经常去那里。

Lily:

That was my favorite cafe actually.

实际上那是我最喜欢的咖啡馆。

Jamie:

Okay. So that was just the second time I've been there. And we met because first I told you "Bon Provecho” when you got your food, which is like “bon appetit” and you said “gracias” with food in your mouth, which was cute. <Laugh>, I made you laugh <laugh>, right. You were really sweet. And then later on, 'cause I saw you had your computer and you were obviously working for yourself and you're nomadic, I asked you to watch my computer when I went to the toilet. And then you were like, I'm gonna ask you later. So we had that little moment and then later that day we just started talking and getting to know each other. And yeah, we did definitely have, like you said, I don't know this time or last time we recorded an instant connection, like a really warm connection. And that's how we met.

好的，那是我第二次去那里。我们之所以见面，是因为当你拿到食物时，我首先对你说了"Bon Provecho"，就像是"bon appétit"，然后你嘴里含着食物说了"gracias"，这真的很可爱。我让你笑了。你真是太可爱了。后来，因为我看到你有电脑，而且你显然是在为自己工作，而且也是正在进行数位游牧，所以当我上厕所时，我让你帮忙看了一下我的电脑。然后你说：等一下我也要请你帮我看一下。于是我们从互相帮忙开始，晚些时候我们开始交谈并互相了解。是的，我们确实有像你说的那样一种立刻就有的链结，就像是一次非常温暖的连结。这就是我们认识的方式。

Lily:

Yeah. Let's talk about, let's talk about that instant connection. It's because you told me that you are, you just started digital nomading and I was just like, wow, that's amazing. Because it's quite trending nowadays. Like almost like everybody wants to travel the world, make money at the same time. So eight years ago when I first started this, I didn't know about that word, digital nomad. And then five years in and somebody was like telling me that you are, you are a digital nomad. I was just like, what? What was that? And then probably about these two years, a lot of people like saying that they want to do(be) a digital nomad. And I was just like, oh, I've been doing that for years. And I just like, I couldn't wait to tell you my experiences and then it was right. And then you were about leaving, but you like left maybe 20 minutes later. Yeah. Yeah. Like we had a such a wonderful connection and then the conversation was great. So a little bit sad that we are not here for long because you are leaving on Saturday. I'm leaving on Sunday. Where are you going next?

是的。让我们来谈谈那个立刻就有链结。当你告诉我你刚刚开始数字游牧时，我就感到非常兴奋。因为现在这个概念非常流行，几乎每个人都希望能够环游世界并赚钱。但八年前，当我第一次开始这样的生活时，我还不知道数字游牧这个词。五年后，有人告诉我，你是一个数字游牧者。当时我还不太了解这个概念，但这两年来，越来越多的人都在追求这样的生活方式。而我，我只是单纯喜欢我正在做的事情，所以我迫不及待地想与你分享我的经历。本来你说要离开了，但又聊了大概20分钟，我们之间的连结如此美妙，谈话也非常愉快，让我们有点遗憾地感受到时间飞逝。由于你周六就要离开，而我周日也要离开，我们在这里的相遇和交流让我们都感到非常珍贵。接下来你要去哪里呢？

Jamie:

Next I'm going back to Costa Rica. So I was in Costa Rica for a couple months. I've only been a digital nomad technically for a few months like this. I'm coming into my third month, so I'm really new at this. And my dog is in Costa Rica, so I came here just for a couple weeks. I'm gonna go back and get her and I think I'm gonna come back here. I'm not sure exactly when, but I really liked it here. If she wasn't with me, if she was with me now, I don't think I'd be going back to Costa Rica. Hmm. Nice. Not yet anyway.

接下来我打算回哥斯达黎加。所以我在哥斯达黎加待了几个月。从技术上来说，我才成为数字游牧者几个月而已。我即将进入第三个月，所以对这样的生活还有些陌生。我的狗在哥斯达黎加，所以我来这里只待了几周。我打算回去接她，然后可能还会回到这里。我还不确定具体的时间，但我真的很喜欢这个地方。如果她现在和我在一起，我想我可能不会回到哥斯达黎加。嗯，这还不确定，我还在考虑中。

Lily:

Hmm. Good. So after this trip I'm going back to Europe. So I have this problem a lot of people want to have, which is like, I don't know where I should go. I have three places and then they are all great options. Like one is Japan that already booked the tickets and the other two is like, should I stay in Iceland for a little bit longer? Or like, should I go back to Spain to practice Spanish more? So I have this problem

唔。 好的。 所以这次旅行结束后我将返回欧洲。 所以我遇到了很多人都想遇到的问题，就像我不知道我应该去哪里。 我有三个地方，它们都是不错的选择。 就像一个是已经订票要前往的日本，另外两个是，我应该在冰岛多呆一会儿吗？ 或者说，我应该回到西班牙多练习西班牙语吗？ 所以我有这个问题！

Jamie:

<Laugh> quite a problem, Lily. Yeah.

<笑>这是一个很大的问题， 是的。

Lily:

Yeah. And the reasons why I want to ask you to be on this podcast is because like first when you introduce me about what you do for your job, you're like, I'm coaching seven figure income CEOs, like CEOs. And I was just like so impressed because I was just like, a lot of people, they are like having this money issue. I don't think you have that because if you are coaching them, you're probably already like over a lot of money traumas already. Yeah. So I think it's perfect for you to be on the show and share your experiences. Especially a lot of my audience, they are, they are wanting to travel the world like us. They want to have a online business. They want to be able to like, not to worry about money anymore. But you are, you are the expert like doing all these things like I am as well, but I'm actually running into like some problem with like how to guide my audience to that. So you are like perfect. You're like godsend the angel. So thank you that, yeah. So yeah. Why do you think why do you say yes to the show? Yeah. 'cause I, your, your time is so valuable.

是的。 我之所以邀请你来参加这个播客，是因为就像你首先向我介绍你的工作内容时一样，你说，你正在指导收入美金七位数的首席执行官。 我印象非常深刻，因为我觉得很多人都遇到了金钱问题。 我不认为你有这样的经历，因为如果你是他们的教练，你可能已经疗愈了很多金钱上的创伤。 是的。 所以我认为你参加这个节目并分享你的经历是完美的。 尤其是我的很多观众，他们想要像我们一样环游世界。 他们想要开展在线业务。 他们希望能够不再担心金钱。 但你是，你是像我一样做所有这些事情的专家，但我实际上遇到了一些问题，比如如何引导我的观众做到这一点。 所以你就像完美的天赐的天使。 所以谢谢你！ 你认为为什么你会同意录制这个节目？ 因为你的时间是如此宝贵。

Jamie:

Hmm. Well, first I said yes before we even said that we were gonna talk about money, but I, I remember telling, telling you when we were talking that like, I, I have no problem talking about money. I think it's a super important topic and as a woman it's unique, it's getting more common. I see a lot more people in social media with this skillset to talk about money. But a few years ago it wasn't, I was like the only person in like Tel Aviv about it. So I said yes, because I think that this is the most inspiring and one of the most effective ways to help people is for them to hear real conversations and not looking for perfection, but just looking for like authentic answers and realness. And we're just all searching for connection. So for me, this is, we're all searching for connection. So for me, this is a really enjoyable, pleasurable way. Like to spend my time and I believe that it will help people and I have no attachment to that. It will also bring me prosperity, but I also believe that when we do things that are enjoyable for us, we're opening ourselves up to more prosperity.

唔。 好吧，在我们说我们要谈论金钱之前，我首先说是的，但是我，我记得当我们谈论金钱时告诉过你，就像我，我谈论金钱没有问题。 我认为这是一个非常重要的话题，作为一名女性，这个话题会是独特的，而且也变得越来越普遍。 我在社交媒体上看到更多的人拥有这种技能来谈论金钱。 但几年前，情况并非如此，我是在特拉维夫这样的地方唯一对此有看法的人。因为我认为这是最鼓舞人心、最有效的帮助人们的方法之一，就是让他们听到真实的对话，而不是寻求完美，而只是寻找真实的答案和真实性。 我们都在寻找连结。 所以对我来说，我们都在寻找连结。 所以对我来说，这是一种非常愉快、愉快的方式。 我喜欢花时间在这方面，我相信这会帮助别人，但我对此没有执着。 它也会给我带来财富，但我也相信，当我们做一些让我们愉快的事情时，我们就会向更多的财富敞开大门。

Lily:

Yeah. Especially this is like the second time we're recording this. Yeah. So <laugh>,

是的。 尤其是这已经是我们第二次录制了。 是的。 

Jamie:

So even double, double prosperity, <laugh>,

所以即使双倍富足，

Lily:

Double, yeah. Prosperity. And then to women as well. Like I often joke about this like my, my students will will tell me about like how their days were affected because the husband was like making them a little bit uncomfortable and then they would be like, ah, they wish they had more money. They don't have to rely on men or something like that. I often joke about like like you should tell your husband, happy wife, happy…

双倍富足。 然后对女人也是如此。 就像我经常开这个玩笑一样，我的学生会告诉我她们的生活因为丈夫让她们有点不舒服而受到了影响，然后她们就会说，希望自己有更多的钱，那么她们就不必依赖男人。 我经常开玩笑说你应该告诉你的丈夫：快乐的妻子，就等于快乐的...

Jamie:

Life. Happy life. Oh yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

生活。 幸福生活。 哦耶。绝对是如此的。d