蒂尔达·斯文顿 | 谈电影《隔壁房间》关于死亡

I mean we talked so much about life. It feels to me as if the film is about life and I have to confess that I feel closer kinship in terms of attitude, in terms of experience and in terms of outlook to Martha than I do to Ingrid.

我们谈了很多关于生命的话题。对我来说，这部电影似乎就是关于生命的。不得不承认，在态度、经历和观念上，跟玛莎相比，我觉得自己与英格丽更亲近。

I personally am not frightened of death and I haven't never been. I know that we stop. I think the whole journey towards accepting death can be long for some people, for some reason and for certain experiences in my life. It came quite early, I know it's coming, I feel it coming, I see it coming. I support my friends when they transition, let's say.

我个人并不惧怕死亡，也从未害怕过。我知道生命终有停止的一刻。我想对于某些人来说，接受死亡的整个过程可能会很漫长，出于某些原因或生命中的某些经历。这种认知在我的生活中来得很早，我知道它要来了，我感觉到它要来了，我看到它要来了。可以说，当我的朋友“过渡”之时，我会支持他们。

But we talked a lot about life and we didn't really talk about death at all. I mean what can you say about death. You can talk about dying and one of the things that this film is a portrait of is self-determination.

但我们谈了很多关于生命的话题，却完全没有谈到死亡。关于死亡，你又能说什么呢？你可以谈论死亡的过程，而这部电影描绘的其中一个主题就是自我决定。

Somebody who decides absolutely to take her life and her living and her dying into her own hands and make it how she wants it to be, as far as she can. She wants to go on living. It's not that she wants to die, but it's about a triumph I think this film. It's really a triumph.

一个人决定将自己的人生、生活和死亡完全掌握在自己手中，并尽可能地按照自己的意愿去做。在电影里她想继续活下去，这并不是说她想死，而是胜利。我认为确实是关于一种胜利。

And there's something about this reverie that we entered when we went to the house in the woods, this decision of Martha's. She says I don't I when Ingrid asks her where do you want to be, what do you want to do in these last weeks.

当我们来到树林里的房子时，就陷入了一种遐想之中，也就是玛莎的决定。当英格里德问她 你想去哪里，你想在最后几周做什么时。

She says I don't want to be somewhere familiar. She has this idea of adventure, of transport. It's going to be... as she keeps rather annoyingly saying to Ingrid, a vacation. This feeling of it being a celebration, it’s I felt for me very real and very relatable and I can't say that I wouldn't act in exactly the same way if I were in her shoes.

她说我不想去熟悉的地方。她想去冒险，去旅行。就像她一直对英格丽德说的那样，她想要去假期。这种庆祝的感觉，对我来说很真实，也很贴近生活。如果我是她的话，我也会这么做的。