凯特·温斯莱特 | 2021年《时代周刊》访谈

It was such an extraordinary experience making Mare of Easttown. Dispelling this sort of "perfect beauty" myth that often goes hand in hand with being, you know, a female celebrity. 

《东城梦魇》制作经历对我来说简直太棒了。消除这种“完美女人”的神话，通常与成为女性名人密切相关。

We just did the opposite with Mare, because that's who she was. And it didn't really occur to me that actually what we were doing was anything particularly different or daring or brave, it was just, that's what we were doing for the character.

但我们塑造的梅尔角色就是反其道而行之，因为那就是她。我并没有觉得我们真正做的是什么特别不同，大胆或勇敢的事，因为这就是我们为这个角色所做的。

It's been really overwhelming, the reaction to Mare, and actually, I have to say, largely unexpected. I mean, I definitely am better equipped to handle these sort of surges of exposure, than I was when I was younger.

但是对梅尔这个角色的反响真的非常强烈，事实上，我不得不说，很大程度上出乎我们的意料。我的意思是，与我年轻时相比，我绝对有能力更好地应对这种曝光率的激增。

Because of course, when you're young, no one can really teach you how to be prepared. So as a cast and a crew collectively, there was a very watertight network, that we just sort of wrapped around our young actors in particular, and made sure that they felt looked after.

当然，正因为你年轻，没有人真正教你如果做好准备，所以作为一个演员和工作集体的一份子，有一层非常严密的关系网，一群人会围在年轻演员的身旁，确保他们受到格外照顾。

And being an executive producer, it was just important to me that we established this atmosphere of everyone being in it together.

作为一名执行制片人，对我来说与所有人建立合作的氛围非常重要。

And we were all affected by the story we were telling. And so we'd be constantly, I think, tracking how powerful some of those emotional moments were. And Craig Zobel, our director, was absolutely brilliant when it came to the sadness factor. And he would say, "Okay, now I feel sad, do something funny."  

我们都被这个故事所影响，所以我们会不断地，我认为，追踪其中一些情感时刻的强大力量。我们的导演克雷格·佐贝尔在塑造悲情方面绝对是一个天才。而他也经常说，“好吧，我觉得很难受，我们去做一些有趣的事。”

So that then in turn meant that Jean Smart and I had freedom and space to just come up with  something that would lighten the mood, and often would end up actually on the screen.

这又意味着我和珍·斯马特有自由和空间想出一些能缓和情绪的东西来，而最终这些都会出现银幕上。

We always had a great script, and a really compelling story. But you can only guess at whether or not an audience is gonna respond to that. And I think people responded to how flawed Mare is, because that's real life.

我们总能得到很好的剧本，一个非常引人入胜的故事。但是你只能猜测观众是否对此会有反响，所以我认为人们回应说梅尔有很多缺点，是因为这就是真实的生活。

She struck a chord with people, and sort of felt like the way we've all been feeling, I think through the last 18 months now with, with the pandemic.

她引起了人们的共鸣，感觉有点像我们在过去一年半时间里对新冠疫情的感觉一样。

Everything she wears and the way she holds herself, and that kind of indulgence in not caring how she looks, really. I think that's kind of a relief, perhaps for people to see, I think particularly women, particularly women of my age, middle-aged women.

她自己的穿搭都保持自己的风格，那种放纵，不在乎自己的样子，真的，我觉得是为了让人们看到，尤其是女性，尤其是像我一样的中年女性看到，这是一种解脱。

And I think as an entertainment industry, we all have a responsibility to make sure that we are being absolutely authentically true to who we are. That we're not changing our faces, that we're not altering our bodies, and achieving some strange idea of perfection that doesn't exist.

此外，我觉得作为一个娱乐行业，我们有责任确保我们绝对要做真实的自我。保持真我既不会改变我们的面孔，也不会改变我们的身体，或者实现一些不切实际完美又奇怪的想法。

It means a lot, I think to be sort of shifting that dynamic of how women can be portrayed on film, on television. It's just very, very rewarding.

保持真我意味着很多方面，我认为在某种程度上改变了女性如何在电影，电视上被动态描绘。这是非常非常有益的。

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Go hand in hand with

If something goes hand in hand with something else, it is closely related to it and happens at the same time as it or as a result of it. 与…关系密切

Prosperity goes hand in hand with investment.

繁荣与投资密切相关。

Occur to sb

If a thought or idea occurs to you, it comes into your mind. （某人）想到，（想法或主意）出现在（某人）头脑中

The thought did occur to me.

我确实冒出了这个念头。

Strike a chord

If something strikes a chord, it causes people to approve of it or agree with it. 引起共鸣，得到赞同

Her speech struck a sympathetic chord among business leaders.

她的演讲博得了商界领袖们的共鸣。